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PBS
Dec 23, 2012 12:30pm PST
chuck kagel and make it to the pentagon? >> the house did not take up the tax measure today because it did on have suffient support from our members to pass. house speaker john boehner's statement thursday evening as he stood in print of the republican conference, he recited the serenity prayer. god, grant me theereny to acpt the tngs which i cannot change and close the house for business until after christmas. there is no place like an empty house for the holidays. thus diane john boehner's plan b, which was destined to die anyway. >> let me be clear. speaker boehner's plans are nonstarters in the senate. >> boehner appeared friday morning and said, if this thing were easy, it would have been done decades ago. >> i am interested in solving the major problems that face our country. that means house leaders, senate leaders, and the president, are going to have to continue to work together to address those concerns. >> the president lifted his number to 400,000, no tax hikes for anyone making less than that, boehner says the million, still no deal. what happened out there? >> he did n
CBS
Dec 23, 2012 8:00am EST
and eventually moving to the pentagon where he became the director of defense research and engineering then air force secretary and eventually defense secretary. his ability to handle a staggering workload are legend including read and annotating 400 page briefing books overnight. during the career brown shaped fighters like the f-15 and f-16 that remain the air force's backbone fleet today. and championed jointness among the military serv before the failed iran hostage rescue mission convinced others to follow. now 85, brown continues to serve on the defense policy board and is a trustee of the center for strategic and international studies. with joyce winds low, brown recently co-authored "star- spangled security" applying lessons safeguarding america. i asked him whether jointness was too far as some critics argue. >> not every operation requires jointness. i'm sure there are some that can be best handled by a single service. and by an element rather far down in the table of organization of that service. nevertheless, i believe that the idea of jointness, joint operations, is correct because
CSPAN
Dec 22, 2012 9:00pm EST
he saw the pentagon's estimate, he wrote in the margin, i doubt it, it took us three months just to take sicily. when the spending requests came in, he said, i know the boys at the pentagon. he believed real national security was from a sound economy. he was a deficit hawk, boy, we could use him today, who controlled government spending and taxes. the famous speech warning against the industrial complex was at the end of the presidency, but worked on it all along behind the scenes. heaven help us he liked to say when we get a president who knows less about the military than i do. it was not about the economy or saving money. in the berlin crisis and earlier crisis with korea and vietnam in 1953 over the strait in 1954-55 and 1958 in the suez crisis in 1956, he was planning a bigger gain for higher stakes. west point cadet and young army officer, ike was a great poker player, and, indeed, so good, he had to give it up. he was taking too much money from the fellow officers hurting his career. he switched to bridge, but he never forgot how to bluff. the soviets, he bluffed with nucl
CSPAN
Dec 23, 2012 11:00am EST
for weapon and mean. when he saw the pentagon estimate that the red army could overrun europe in two weeks, he wrote in the margin, i doubt. it took us three months just to take this on. when the spending request came in, ike would say i know those boys down at the pentagon. ike believed the real national security came from a sound economy. he was a deficit hawk. he controlled government spending and package. his famous speech warning against military-industrial complex came at the end of his presidency but, in fact, he been working on it all a long. mostly behind the scenes. heaven help us, he liked to say, that we'll get a president who knows less about the military than i do. this approach to the military was not just about the economy. in the berlin crisis in 58-59 and in early crisis with korea and vietnam in 1953, 54, the almost straight, the suez crisis in 1956, eisenhower was playing a bigger game for higher stakes. a west point cadet and a young army officer, ike had been a great poker player. indeed, he was so good that he had to give it up. he was taking too much money from his
ABC
Dec 23, 2012 9:00am EST
from vietnam wh two purple hearts, talk about him going to the pentagon. there are some republicans who were not t very happy with hiss formerer republican senator. why? >> chuckck hagel had orders to go to germany. he was at fort d, new jersey and said i wanted to go to vietnam. they made him talk to the chaplain and pchologist. after two weeks, he went to vietnam. he has fought for his countntry unlike his critics. he has bled for his country unlike his critics. hehe understands war, unlike hisis critics. he does not have other incentives like dick cheney. he is prepared and r ready. bill cohen said it best. he has fought and bled for thisis country. he knows the subject matter. ask jim jones and other national securitydvisers. >> iraq and iran, that is what upsets people about huck hagel. >> he supported the war in iraq, voted in favor, and supported the war in afghanistan. it is an odd de that supported the two were that all the critics are now crying. he also, when it camtime to dean what was a losing war in iraq with the surge, he not only opopposed it he said it would be the wors
CSPAN
Dec 23, 2012 9:15am EST
everything else off the news, and i read a teleframe from the pentagon that my unit would be deployed at a certain embarkation point of south carolina along with the 101st, but the peanut patrol would stay in place. so it became part of pentagon lore. along, a long, convoluted answer to your question, but that was it. please. >> you go to the first sergeant, you say this is, that was my assignment. please select, because they knew more than i did about their own men, and i had a whole battalion to pick from. so we were able to get some pretty good people. generally, they did their duty. nobody lost their cool. we had two, one or two close, close incidents thereafter in front of the cafeteria, i found out. while we hated the marshals, the deputy marshals, the civilians running around in blue suits, they had regard for us because we wore a uniform. part of the tradition of the south, patriotism first. so they didn't have -- give us too much trouble, but once in a while, once in a while they did. but it was, again, the book is dedicated to my battalion members because they were an army o
CSPAN
Dec 23, 2012 10:30am EST
security posture. interagency teams give particular scrutiny to high threat posed. the pentagon agreed to dispatch additional marines to post around the world. we asked congress for funds to hire new diplomatic security personnel. we're updating our diplomat procedures to increase the number of experienced and well- trained staffs serving at those posts. tom and i will be discussing all this work and more with congress tomorrow. for now, let me make one other point. i have been a proud member of the foreign service for more than 30 years. i've had the honor of serving as a chief of mission overseas. i know that diplomacy by its very nature must sometimes be practiced in dangerous places. chris stevens understood that our diplomats may not work in bunkers and do their jobs. it is important to recognize that our colleagues in the bureau's of diplomatic security at home and abroad did it right countless times a day for years on end. but we have learned some very hard and painful lessons benghazi. we're already acting on them. we have to do more to constantly improve, reduce the risks that
CBS
Dec 22, 2012 6:00pm PST
the regular life. phillips'. >> axelrod: the pentagon is reporting that the number of sexual assaults in the nation's three military academies jumped 23% this year. 80 sexual assaults have been reported. even more alarming, defense secretary leon panetta believes that that is a fraction of those that actually took place. panetta calls it a "persistent problem requiring a strong and immediate response." the brutal rape of a 23-year-old student in india is sparking outrage there. thousands clashed with police in new delhi, demanding justice after the gang rape. the attack on a city bus lasted more than an hour. the victim was also beaten with metal rods. six men have been arrested, but most rapes in india are not prosecuted. egyptians went to the polls today in the second and final vote on a new constitution. the document has polarized the nation with critics worrying it gives too much power to islamists. adding to the instability, egypt's vice president and egypt's central banker both resigned today. pope benedict has issued a christmas pardon to his former butler. the pontiff visited
NBC
Dec 23, 2012 6:30pm EST
for authority doors better protect women from these types of frequent attacks. >>> tonight, the pentagon says the commanding officer of s.e.a.l. team 4 has died in afghanistan. navy commander joe w. price died of what they are called a non-combat-related injury. u.s. military officials are telling nbc news they are investigating his death as a possible suicide. he was 42 years old. >>> and in hawaii today, president obama and first lady michelle obama attended a memorial service for one of the president's personal heroes, senator daniel inouye passed away monday after nearly 50 years in congress and serving our nation in world war ii. >>> still ahead as we continue on nbc nightly news, the new warnings from the feds about who's tracking your kids on all those mobile devices, sometimes collecting personal information without their knowledge. >>> and later, they are on track to make a big difference for a lot of kids this christmas. [ male announcer ] introducing centrum flavor burst adult multivitamins... a delicious new way to get essential vitamins you need. just bite into the tasty shell...
WETA
Dec 23, 2012 9:30am EST
sexual assaults in the military, the pentagon announced new initiatives to prevent the crimes and help victims. america nuns continue to battle with theco vatican, say the nuns have grown prelates say the nuns have grown too secular and liberal while abandoning traditional doctrine. on the corporate front, 19 women now head fortune 500 companies. joining the list was marissa mayer who made headlines for taking over yahoo. she then announced she was six months pregnant. mayer released her son's name macallister on twitter. she took a short break and returned to work. and after years of battling the male only augusta national golf club, the home of the masters now has green jackets for women. former secretary of state condoleeza rice and south carolina financier darla moore are the first female members since 1932. linda, what do you think was the biggest women's story of 2012? >> i do think the women's role and women's vote in the 2012 election is the big story. you had a huge gap an 18% gap between president obama's female vote and mitt romney's. but more importantly it's not just that
CSPAN
Dec 22, 2012 9:35pm EST
and many communications networks were iin-- were inoperable. so when the pentagon was hit and the capitol was evacuated, my staff and i walked one block to my home on capitol hill, just as an ark example, the husband of y office manager worked in the section of the pentagon that had been hit. so we were on the phone -- the one phone that we had -- to hospitals, the police, to anyone that we thought might be able to tell us if he was safe. thankfully, he was fine. but ther were so many who waited for hours, who called hospitals to hear from their loved ones. sometimes the news was a relief, and sometimes they waited in vain for good news. and i have to say that it was an incredible moment when the senators who could find each other wherever they had gone from the capitol, we finally gathered early -- well, late afternoon in the capitol police headquarters to talk to our leaders, who had been taken to an undisclosed location. and they said, we don't want anyone to come, but we are going to the steps of the capitol to hold a press conference. we don't want anyone there because we don't know
CSPAN
Dec 23, 2012 12:35am EST
of washington. many communication networks were not operable. when the pentagon was hit and the capitol was evacuated, my staff and i walked to my home on capitol hill. the husband of my office manager work in a section of the pentagon that had been hit. we were on the one phone that we had an call the hospitals, police, anyone that we thought might be able to tell us if he was safe. thankfully, he was fine. but there were so many who waited for hours and called hospitals to hear from their loved ones. sometimes the news was a relief and sometimes they waited in vain for good news. i have to say that it was an incredible moment when the senators who could find each other wherever they had gone from the capital, we finally gathered in the capitol police headquarters to talk to our leaders who had been taken to an undisclosed location. they said, we do not want anyone to come, but we are going to the steps of the capitol to hold a press conference. we do not want anyone there because we do not know who is safe, but we want to tell the press that we are going to open for business tomorrow
CNN
Dec 23, 2012 6:00am PST
or a no. if the president nominates chuck hagel to be the next pentagon chief, will he be approved in the u.s. senate? >> yes. >> yes. >> okay. unanimity. happy. happy holidays, thank you, all. i appreciate it. >>> when we return, another kennedy eyes the senate seat in massachusetts. [ sniffs ] i have a cold. [ sniffs ] i took dayquil but my nose is still runny. [ male announcer ] truth is, dayquil doesn't treat that. really? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ breathes deeply ] awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is. that's the cold truth! >>> before we leave. a check of the headlines. south korean officials say that rocket launched by north korea earlier this month shows the reclusive nation has developed the technology to fire a warhead capable of reaching the united states. despite international condeminations the launch was soon as a boost to north korea's new leader kim jong-un. >>> italy pulled itself out of the debt crisis. monte is widely credited with saving italy from a financial meltdown after steppi
CNN
Dec 23, 2012 8:00am PST
cooperation of kathryn bigelow and other administration, received from the white house and the pentagon, documented in the e-mails that have come out, do you think that maybe unmaliced the film a little bit or compromised the independence. >> the obama administration comes off, if anything, poorly with this. the one scene with the president his view on torture comes off prissy and only appears in the cameo in the background in a "60 minutes" interview. >> you have written there's a theory that screen writer fell in love with his cia sources and embraced their perspective wholeheartedly. explain. >> well, i mean from what i gather, i think that's true. and in a peculiar way, this is sort of a feminist movie in that he put a lot of their feelings into the character of this woman who actually, whose role in the story is to drive the men to be more decisive, to be, if you will, more macho, take a chance, take risks, take this sfrmg.o.b down and not do this probability stuff. >> i'm going to make a prediction, this film is going to do very well given the avalanche of publicity even before it
FOX Business
Dec 22, 2012 8:00pm EST
rice was, well, withdrew her name from consideration. joining us now, former pentagon official, fox is security analyst, former u.s. ambassador to the united nations. what do you think of this appointment? >> i think it will be more of the same, only worse. i think -- i think his views and the presidents are essentially the same. the president saw it up close and personal. for years on the senate foreign relations committee. kerrey has been wrong on nuclear proliferation about half the area, wrong and dealing with russia on arms control and missile defense, wrong on china. i could go on, but i think that -- lou: we are about to run out of countries. >> the president got what he wanted. it will be more of the same. lou: to you agree? >> i think it is a pretty good choice. he won the election. he gets to choose. confirmed pretty readily? represents a sort of mainstream of american foreign policy, a little bit less for me, but not as far left as the first joist. lou: interesting, john mccain and others came out with really unreserved support for senator kerry. let's turn, if we may, to
FOX News
Dec 22, 2012 7:00pm PST
. they are versatile and we are lucky to have them. >> in 2010 after the pentagon spent four years and $17,000 researching ied detection they announced that nothing is better than a dog. >> having a dog on point is very important and they have saved many lives. >> coming up, the unbreakababab [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- you can stay in and like something... or you can get out there and actually like something. the lexus december to remember sales event is on. this is the pursuit of perfection. the lexus december to remember sales event is on. an intense burning sensation i woke up with this horrible rash on my right side. like somebody had set it on fire. and the doctor said, cindie, you have shingles. he said, you had chickenpox when you were a little girl... i said, yes, i did. i don't think anybody ever thinks they're going to get shingles. but it happened to me. for more of the inside story, visit shinglesinfo.com >>> here at lackland air force base in texas, dogs aren't the only ones receiving training. so are military working dog handlers. >> i wanted to keep things
FOX News
Dec 22, 2012 10:00pm PST
the pentagon spent four years and $17,000 researching ied detection they announced that nothing is better than a dog. >> having a dog on point is very important and they have saved many lives. >> coming up, the unbreakababab >>> here at lackland air force base in texas, dogs aren't the only ones receiving training. so are military working dog handlers. >> i wanted to keep things, the longer you are with the dog the more he wants to work for you. >> before they are ready deploy with their dogs handlers first need to experience what it is like on the receiving end of a dog in attack mode. >> it is imperative that we train as we fight that we make training very real to try to expose that dog team to something that they will actually be exposed to in a deployment. >> they say that a dog is a man's and a woman's best friend. for marine corporal megan levy not even distance could break the powerful bond between this handler and her dog rex. >> i knew that i wanted to adopt rex. he was a great working dog. >> their bond was forged at camp pendleton in california around on the battlefields of iraq. >>
CNN
Dec 23, 2012 9:00am PST
. if the president nominates chuck hagel to be the next pentagon chief, will he be approved in the u.s. senate? >> yes. >> yes. >> okay. unanimity. happy. happy holidays, thank you, all. ron brownstein, susan page, mike duffy. when we return, another kennedy eyes the senate seat in massachusetts. [ woman ] dear cat, your hair mixes with pollen and dust. i get congested. but now, with zyrtec-d®, i have the proven allergy relief of zyrtec®, plus a powerful decongestant. zyrtec-d® lets me breath freer, so i can love the air. [ male announcer ] zyrtec-d®. behind the pharmacy counter. no prescription needed. >>> before we leave. a check of the headlines. more than 90 people have been killed in an air strike on a bakery in syria's central hama province. the strike hit a town recently seized by rebels in a new push to take territory in hama. rebels have been fighting the government of president assad for 21 months. south korean officials say the rocket launched by north korea earlier this month shows the reclusive nation has developed the technology to fire a warhead capable of reaching the unite
CNN
Dec 23, 2012 3:00pm PST
. a pentagon official says there's no indication he was involved in any military-related investigations or controversies. the navy has launched a full inquiry. >>> president hugo chavez is on the mend. that's according to venezuela's vice president who gave an update on his boss's condition this weekend. chavez has cancer and had surgery december 11th in cuba. vice president nicolas medura has been running things in venezuela during chavez's treatment. he describes hugo chavez as recovering and getting stronger every day. >>> a british newspaper is taking lance armstrong to court. the sunday times says they settled a libel case with armstrong six years ago after they printed claims that he was doping. well, as you know, armstrong was stripped of all his title this is year. why? over doping. the british paper wants its settlement money back and about $1 million more. >>> senator ben affleck? has a ring to it, right? well, the rumor mill has been turning this we'll, and this morning the hollywood actor was asked if he would run for a massachusetts senate seat if senator john kerry becomes
CSPAN
Dec 23, 2012 6:00pm EST
, but unfortunately members of the pentagon said this is all a big deception being done by bin laden to take everyone i saw posted on his name. after the attack, they got very aggressive in terms of the policies they decided and took on. what you see in this book is about one and two decisions, how fast they were made, sometimes so badly they were made, but also some canonically great decisions. >> kurt eichenwald, use the words secretive nice. what did you find click >> some of them had to do, some of them had to do the simple things such as the knowledge they had within the government about the actual connections between al qaeda and saddam hussein. one of the most surprising things to me this thursday defense intelligence agency report, classified report that came out in 2002 that specifically said our intelligence on weapons of mass destruction is terrible. we can't establish any of the things we say to the public. i quote from that document pretty excessively. so that was disturbing and really did seem like it's something at the preconception conifers except you. if something didn't, it was taug
FOX News
Dec 23, 2012 11:00am PST
for the pentagon reportedly is chuck republican senator chalk hagel who went on a former trip with then senator obama in 2008 to the middle east. what do you think of kerry as the definite, well, i think it is fair to say he will sail through as the nominee for secretary of state. and what do you think of hagel as the potential secretary of defense? >> senator kerry will go through. president obama won the election and senator kerry is an appropriate secretary of state for a light footprint often unwise foreign policy that he will execute president obama's foreign policy competently. i think senator hagel will not be nominated or confirmed. etan was a republican senator but on foreign policy issues in the last several years and he has been way to the left of president obama in terms of iran sanctions. >> the iran sanctions votes which got 92 and 97 votes in the senate and he voted against. there is a letter signed by 99 senators, every other senator that he refused to sign. on israel, he talked about the jewish lobby in 2006. for a republican president to nominate someone talk about the jewish
ABC
Dec 23, 2012 8:00am PST
serve and sacrifice. this week the pentagon released the name of one soldier killed in afghanistan, and we'll be right back with a holiday thank you. ♪ sleigh bells ring >> i always think it's the prettiest. each year i think it's the prettiest. ♪ snow is glistening >> it's like a wonderland. ♪ we're happy tonight >> it's always spectacular every year. ♪ gone away >> welcome to the white house! pretty cool, huh? ♪ here to stay is a new bird >> every tree from midland beach and all across the country shine as a beacon of hope for all americans. i'd like to wish each and every one of you a very merry christmas and a peaceful and joyful holiday season. ♪ he'll say are you married >> a look back at christmas in the white house. that is all for us today. thanks for sharing part of your sunday with us. check out "world news" with david muir tonight, and before we go, a big thank you to everyone here behind the scenes who brings you "this week" every week. have a happy, safe and blessed christmas. ♪ ♪ hallelujah hallelujah ♪ hallelujah hallelujah ♪ hallelujah ♪ halle
FOX
Dec 23, 2012 9:00am EST
named john kerry to be the new secretary of state. and, the front-runner for the pentagon reportedly, is former republican senator chuck hagel who you can see went on a foreign trip with then senator obama in 2008 to the middle east. what do you think of kerry as the definite - well, i think it is fair to say he's going to sail through as the nominee for secretary of state. and what do you think of hagel as a potential secretary of defense. >> senator kerry will go through and, he is an appropriate secretary of state. i think, for a light footprint, often -- he'll execute president obama's foreign policy confidently, i'm sure and i think senator hagel will either not be nominated or confirmed, he's more extreme than john kerry and, the obama white house says he's a republican and, republicans will go for him, but on foreign policy issues, especially the last several years, he is way to the left of president obama in terms of iran sanctions. he's -- iran sanctions, the vote which got 92, 97 votes in the senate and he voted against, and, a letter signed by 99 senators, denouncing russi
FOX News
Dec 23, 2012 9:00am PST
of faith with our soldiers makes him not the right man to leave the pentagon. he went on in 2007 not only to oppose the surge and delay war funding and vote for a mandatory withdrawal from iraq at the same time. >> i want to quote directly from senator heigle at that time. there will be no defeat and no victory for the united states in iraq. and the time for more troops in iraq has passed. and it went on to say that -- i will just read this here, my comments 14 years ago were in -- actually this is in regard to a different issue. let's take that off and we will get to that in a moment. you were the platoon leader before it even happened. >> i was leading a 41-man with the 101st airborne in baghdad in 2006. those men fought bravely. they helped stabilize our sector of the city 1k3 defeat al-qaeda and other foreign terrorists and protect other civilians. they are proud of their accomplishments and no one told them at the time we would not achieve victory and we needed to withdraw from the country. today's fighting troops we have 68,000 troops in afghanistan. they deserve secretary of defens
MSNBC
Dec 23, 2012 7:00am PST
. as yet, president obama has made no nomination for secretary of defense to replace the pentagon chief, leon panetta. the short list is very short indeed, chuck hagel. the senator from nebraska. he's the front-runner to succeed panetta. at least conservatives are treating him that way and using the tactics they used against susan rice and on one detail, israel. he once warned of the intimidating influence of the jewish lobby and said this in a 2006 interview while in office. >> i'm a united states senator, not an israeli senator. i'm a united states senator. i support israel, but my first interest is i take an oath to the united states, not to a president, not a a party not to israel. >> i'm confused about what is controversial about that. hagel is criticized for a remark he made about an ambassador candidate he made in 1998 when he said james hormel was openly gay. hormel said he accepted the apology. chuck hagel hasn't been selected yet. given what happened to ambassador rice, the question becomes will the president get the cabinet he wants or settle for the cabinet he can get confir
FOX News
Dec 23, 2012 3:00am PST
, pentagon, watergate, iran-contra. >> clayton: i've had the pleasure of meeting him over the years and usually a fair-minded person so for him to come out and say this in person, he may have some evidence to show it's credible and may keep pushing forward. a lot of people are not happy the way that benghazi unto folded, that we were caught flat-footed and even though there were military members. >> and specifically what he's referring to, having read the transcript, on thursday there was a senate foreign relations committee asking exactly the same questions they asked on the first day of the benghazi tragedy and that is the cia memo left the cia with the specific references to al-qaeda in it. by the time the memo was presented to susan rice and came out of her mouth on the sunday morning talk shows, those records as to al-qaeda had been spiked, who did that? even after the report, they don't know who sponged those references. once again on thursday, he says, come on, this is the question. >> and four individuals lost their jobs at the state department as a result of the report that
CSPAN
Dec 23, 2012 7:00am EST
of state and the new speculation about chuckle over at the pentagon. here are the comments of congressman dingell, the incoming democratic member of the house foreign affairs committee. but there is a huge opposition to the potential nomination of chuckled to become the next secretary of defense, even the president obama has not made his decision. the former senator has come under fire for statements he has made, including one where he referred to the pro-israel lobby as the "jewish lobby." what is your reaction to that remark? >> i think that remark is a troublesome and problematic. it shows that the very best, a lack of sensitivity, and at the very worst, prejudice. i am concerned about the nomination. chuck if has been in the senate for a number of years. there is not only a lot of controversy with that remark, but with some of his boats -- votes. i have been hearing it from what my constituents, mainly in opposition to his nomination. >> you mentioned his boats. there are two sets of things -- he declined to sign some letters in the senate that were related, issues relating to the mid
CSPAN
Dec 23, 2012 3:33pm EST
anyone really believe there is not a single dollar to be saved anywhere in the pentagon? the american people have spoken. they have made it loud and clear they want a balanced approach that casts the wealthiest americans to pay a little bit more. it protect our seniors, children, and our most vulnerable neighbors. the republican leaders refuse to listen. let me say another thing. i would say my republican freshman colleague -- i remember the promises of things you said would change. i would say, you own this now. you have officially become part of the problem, if not the problem. it is a vote against accountability. let me say this, my republican friends have made it on fashionable to worry about the poor and the elderly and the vulnerable. i urge my colleagues not to turn your backs on the most needy. let's balance our budget in a way that does not lower the quality of life or decrease the standard of living. we can do so much better. instead of doing this, you should be negotiating with the president. go back to the negotiating president and stop the game. >> i yield 5 minutes to my
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